Sunday, April 5, 2026

 God does not lie

Not according to the Bible. God lies in the Bible.

Examples of Gods lies in the Bible…

The Lying Spirit (1 Kings 22:19-23): God asks for a spirit to entice King Ahab to go to battle, where he will die. A spirit volunteers to be a "lying spirit" in the mouths of all Ahab’s prophets. God authorizes this, directly resulting in a deception that leads to Ahab's death.

The Garden of Eden (Genesis 2:17): God tells Adam that if he eats from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, he will die "in that day". Adam eats the fruit but does not die on that day

In Isaiah 7:1-7 God tells the king of Judah that he shall not be harmed by his enemies. Yet it did come to pass. His enemies did harm him. as 2 Chronicles 28:1-8 tells us. Why did God lie to the king of Juday?

“God does not lie”—not true. According to the Bible.

 

To totally ignore the fact that Smith made multiple predictions in God's name which did not take place is to ignore what it explicitly says about prophets in the Bible.

There are false prophecies in the Bible. So false prophecies are not a test of a real prophet.

In Isaiah 7:1-7 God tells the king of Judah that he shall not be harmed by his enemies. Yet it did come to pass. His enemies did harm him. as 2 Chronicles 28:1-8 tells us.

“One false prophecy, and you have a false prophet.” Not according to the Biblical record.

There are apologists who justify all of Smiths predictions and prophecies.

https://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/response/qa/false_prophesies.htm

 

However, the way Smith did this also constituted fraud and this is certainly against what Jesus taught.

Smith –like Bible prophets—was a flawed man. Smith repenting is certainly in-line with what Jesus taught. Apologists will disagree that Smith was a fraudster.

Smiths polygamy is not any more ore less wicked than polygamy in the Bible. Its wicked in the Bible and wicked in LDS Christian history.

The standard is the Bible. Morally and ethically, Smith had problems. But using the Bible –a horrific moral and ethical guide—Smith meets the standard of a Biblical pophet.

 

Jacob 2 clearly states that the many wives and concubines of David and Solomon was an abomination. Did anyone other than Abraham ever follow the "law of Sarah" in the Bible? I don't know of any. This was certainly not true of Jacob's 2/4 wives. Section 132 is not really "Biblical" unless you focus attention only on Abraham, who might not even have existed.

That’s what is funny—the Book of Mormon condemns polygamy. The Bible does not.

 

As to false prophecies, sometimes on closer examination, one finds that the thing which is wrong is a particular interpretation of what they said. The problem with Smith isn't just his lack of accuracy in making prediction but with his introduction of wicked practices and reliance on magic rituals. The problem with Smith is his evil fruits and the calling of evil good in order to justify him. I think Isaiah had this one completely right in Chapter 5.

I am going to push-back that LDS Christians engage in wicked rituals. Come on, now.

LDS Christians worship and follow Christ and will say that their religious ritual helps them follow and worship Christ.

 

True prophets come to the people with a message from God.

Yeah, that is what Smith said and did.

 

Part of that message with all the literary prophets beginning with Amos was that God wants righteousness, not just a bunch of rituals.

Is Baptism a ritual…? Even Jesus did baptism in the Bible. And the Bible is clear that baptism is a requirement. According to the Bible writer speaking for Jesus…

John 3:5-6 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Jesus said the same thing, including a new commandment to love others. Smith taught the opposite, emphasising magical rituals and authority. His personal life was not worthy of emulation. His fruits were evil and so he should be rejected.

Smith taught people to follow Jesus, and testified of Jesus. LDS Christians will say that their Christ-centered worship and ritual brings them closer to Christ. Ritual? Christ was baptized in the Bible. There is ritual in the Bible.

Smith taught the opposite of Jesus? That is pants on head not correct. Smith testified of Jesus and told people to follow the teachings of Jesus. Smith taught that Jesus was real, he rose from the dead, and told people to worship Jesus.

Smiths personal life is in-line with the Bible. The Bible was Smiths moral and ethical guide. “Smith practiced polygamy!” The Bible does not condemn polygamy. Polygamy was normative in the Bible.

Smiths “fruits” (Book of Mormon, D+C, etc) testify of Jesus Christ. The Book of Mormon testifies of Christ more per verse than the Bible. From internet AI… “The Doctrine and Covenants (D&C) contains more direct words of Jesus Christ and a higher concentration of first-person testimony regarding His divinity, modern mission, and Atonement per verse than the Bible.” You want Christ? You will find Christ in the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/new-era/2014/12/75-truths-in-the-doctrine-and-covenants?lang=eng

Christ can help us overcome doubt and fear. D&C 6:34–37

Jesus Christ is the only name whereby we can be saved. D&C 18:23

Jesus Christ lives. D&C 76:22–24

Saturday, April 4, 2026

 

On the website https://www.theadventtruth.com/freebiblestudiesaasdfas/the-ten-tests-of-a-prophet

We find, “The Ten Tests of a Prophet.”

This was recently used in a drive-by evangelizing post, “my Jesus is better than your Jesus” type of a post.

So, this is just meant to show that the Bible contradicts the Bible and that Smith technically meets the (not that high of a standard) Biblical definition of prophet.

The Ten Tests of a Prophet

Test 1: Reliable Predictions

If someone claims to be a prophet that makes predictions, their predictions must come to pass in totality. The only exception would be a conditional prophecy. But if someone says something is definitely going to happen, no conditions, then if it doesn’t happen, they are a false prophet.

Jeremiah 28:9 — The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the LORD hath truly sent him.

My answer: Reliable predications -cannot- be the Biblical test of a Biblical prophet.

Jesus made predictions that were not fulfilled. Matthew 24:34. Mark 13:30. 

In Ezekiel chapter 26, the prophecy is made that Tyre will be destroyed and will never be rebuilt. Yet the city of Tyre still exists to this day.

Clearly unfulfilled prophecies are not a Biblical test of a Biblical prophet.

Test 2: Lift up Jesus

A true prophet will lift up Jesus, and not themselves. Many false prophets are all about self with a “look at me” attitude. True prophets will be humble, seeking only to point others to the Lamb of God.

John 16:13 — Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Matthew 7:15-20 — Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

My answer: Smith testified of Jesus. And the Book of Mormon testifies of Jesus more per verse than the Bible. The Doctrine and Covenants testify of Jesus.

“Salvation could not come to the world without the mediation of Jesus Christ.” https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-joseph-smith/chapter-3?lang=eng

Test 3: Nothing Secret

False prophets will concoct their prophecies and interpretations in secret. For example, Joseph Smith came up with the Book of Mormon in secret. True prophets will be open and clear about the fact that the doctrine they teach comes from the Bible.

2 Peter 1:19-21 — We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 — All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Timothy 2:15 — Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

My answer: Smith taught more from the Bible than he ever did from the Book of Mormon. Ratios more. But “nothing secret” contradicts the Bible.

First—This shows a huge misunderstanding of how the Bible became the Bible. The Bible references books not actually in the Bible.

Second—Smith tried telling anyone and everyone about the Book of Mormon and got it published for everyone.

As for this “no secrets” contradicting the Bible—John 21: 25 “ "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen."

So there are “secret” things—things we do not know about. In the Bible. From the Bible.

Another verse talking of secret things… John 20:30-31: "Jesus did many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book. But these are written that you may believe..."

The Bible contradicts the Bible. There are verses that talk of secret things in the Bible.

 

 

Test 4: No Sugar Coating

Like Elijah, true prophets point out and rebuke sin in the proper spheres (private where necessary, openly where necessaary, but never where the world can reproach the Gospel).

Micah 3:5-8 — Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him. Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.

1 Kings 17-19

My answer: Apologists would likely say that Smith didn’t sugar coat his teachings that Smith claimed came from God.

 

Test 5: Warning of Judgments

God gives messages of coming judgments to His prophets, and they, in turn, warn the church and the world of these coming judgments.

Isaiah 24:20 — The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

My answer: Apologists would likely say that Smith gave Gods judgements.

Test 6: Builders

A true prophet will seek to edify and build up the church, not to tear it down, be it public or private. A surgeon cuts to heal, not to destroy, and never needlessly. 1 Cor. 14:3-4.

1 Corinthians 14:3-5 — But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

My answer: Apologists would likely say that Smith “built” The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 

Test 7: Bible Based

A true prophet will not teach anything contrary to the Bible. Anyone claiming to be a prophet must be willing to be subject to scrutiny based on the Bible.

Isaiah 8:20 — To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

1 Corinthians 14:32 — And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

My answer: Smith taught from the Bible. Constantly and consistently. The Bible does not give an age limit for young women to marry. Women are property in the Bible. Slavery is condoned. The Bible is noty that great of an ethical and moral guide. But Smith followed it.

“Smith was a polygamist!” Its in the Bible. The House of Israel is a polygamist group in the Bible. “Smith married young women!” No age limit is given in the Bible.

Smith taught from the Bible. Constantly. He lived by the Bible. The Bible contradicts itself and is not a very good moral and ethical guide. “Polygamy is condemned!” Sure—in the Book of Mormon. It was normative in the Bible.

 

Test 8: Physical Proof

A true prophet going into vision falls down weak, & then is strengthened by God. They also have their eyes wide open the whole time, and they do not breath while in vision.

Numbers 24:4 — He hath said, which heard the words of God, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open:

Daniel 10:7-9 — And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves. 8 Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. 9 Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground.

Daniel 10:16-17 — And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips: then I opened my mouth, and spake, and said unto him that stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows are turned upon me, and I have retained no strength. For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me.

My answer: Smith had miraculous visions, and created scripture. One of the unique things critical historians note about Smith isn’t necessarily his visions. Its that he is able to include others in his miraculous visions. Even the most critical historians have to account for 20 separate witnesses to the Book of Mormon. Smith did not have visions and miracles himself. He included others in them. Like the Bible.

Test 9: Christlike Fruit

A true prophets life will be morally pure. While being normal humans, they will be kind, respectful, and loving.

Matthew 7:15-20 — Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

James 5:17 — Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

My answer: Smith  meets the Biblical definition of Bible prophet. He had the ethics and morality found in the Bible. Polygamy is normative in the Bible, women are property in the Bible, and the Bible sets no marital age for young women to marry. Smith meets the Biblical definition of Bible prophet. 

He also claimed he repented of sins and was miraculously forgiven. A teaching of Christ.  

 

Test 10: Obedient

A true prophet will often have to bear unpleasant messages. However, they will still be obedient, both to the command to share the message, and to God’s Ten Commandment Law. Deuteronomy 18:18, Isaiah 8:20, Prov. 29:18, Rev. 12:17.

Deuteronomy 18:18 — I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

Isaiah 8:20 — To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Proverbs 29:18 — Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.

Revelation 12:17 — And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

My answer: Apologists will claim that Smith was obedient to God and fulfilled Gods mission for him as a prophet.